Today, we look at some extensive talk about civil war.
Christina Bobb (a lawyer who tried to overturn the 2020 election with Trump and who was indicted last month for her role in the Arizona fake electors plot) did an interview on Real America’s Voice with Steve Bannon. In the RAV interview, she claims that simply for joining Trump’s team, she was investigated by the FBI, US Marshalls, and is facing prison time. It’s true that she’s facing felony counts, but those are for allegedly committing actual felonies, not for simply working with Trump.
Someone shared a clip of this interview on the forums I monitor, and it really hit a nerve. It’s unclear if they don’t know why she is facing charges or if they don’t care, but the discussion treats her claims as though she is bring investigated and tried simply for questioning the integrity of the election. The rhetoric is violent and rageful, but the community also is self-aware enough to recognize that most of them are keyboard warriors who are not going to actually do anything.
Some quotes:
“How can this not end in Civil War?”
“Can't wait for the same sentences for the ones who helped STEAL the election...or even worse. We all know ow the punishment for TREASON.”
“Liberals are terrorists”
“Don't care. If [election theft] happens again, the people won't be patient, because the world will be destroyed and we have children to fight for.”
And some quotes that show a little honest self-reflection:
“THIS will only get worse - a whole fucking lot worse...marxists are just getting started and "they" never stop until defeated>>>exiled and eradicated. These commies already KNOW that ameriKans do not have the stomach or the will to stand against them. Posting pictures on sunday gunday and threatening a civil war that will never come will not be enough and ‘THEY’ know it.”
“…people are not prepared for true hardship and will do their best to cling to their comfortable lifestyles until they have nothing left. Mind you, I'll fully admit I'm one of those people; nothing is really stopping me or anyone from trying to take back the country we've lost, but it's easier to just sit and wait for someone else to do it. This is especially the case since Jan 6 showed everyone that they can do whatever they want to us and we'll all sit back and just talk about how fucked it is rather than do anything about it.”
There are no organized plans to do anything in these discussions, but it’s one more sign in a growing list that there is an appetite for violence and a belief, fueled by misinformation and bad faith interaction with the facts, that violence may be the only solution. I do not see signs that the community will be moved to act like they were on January 6th - at least not yet - but I see a desire for a leader to call them to action.
From the .win Forums
This is an automated summary of discussions on pro-Trump forums
1. The main topics being discussed include political issues such as election fraud, corruption, and bias in the justice system. There is also discussion about the COVID-19 pandemic and its effects on society, including government response and potential treatments and vaccines.
2. There are several threats made against individuals and groups in these documents. These include accusations of corruption and criminality against specific politicians, such as Joe Biden and George Soros, as well as calls for action against them. There are also threats of violence, such as rebellion or revolution against the government, and calls for aggressive action against political opponents.
3. The community is making plans for political action, such as supporting certain political figures and parties, as well as discussing potential candidates for the upcoming election. There are also discussions about taking legal action against perceived corruption and injustice, as well as calls for transparency and equal treatment in political processes. However, there are also mentions of potential violent action, such as civil war, and a desire for non-politician politicians to take control.
From Telegram
This is an automated summary of discussions on pro-Trump Telegram channels
1. The main topics being discussed are support for President Trump, criticism of the media and Democrats, conspiracy theories about election fraud, criticism of Biden and his administration, and support for conservative values and figures.
2. There are threats against political opponents, particularly Democrats and the current administration, with accusations of corruption and calls for action against them.
3. Some members of the community are making plans for political action, such as supporting conservative values and policies, while others are discussing the possibility of military intervention or sabotage against Trump's opponents. There are also mentions of the upcoming election and the need to vote for Trump in order to prevent a "deep state" or government conspiracy.